Energy Reduction Proposal for the Fisk residence![]()

Existing 5 ton heat pump with elbow. New unit to be installed where elbow is now.

Currently, the attic has no soffit venting. Powered venting to be installed

The existing gable vents will be used as intake vents. A 16" German made attic fan to be installed in the roof near the center of the home. Addtional intake vents to be added lower in the gable for adequate evacuation of the hot attic air.

Attic is currently insulated to approximately R25 with Owens Corning blown fiberglass insulation. Center of home is vaulted which increases heat gain through the ceiling via infrared heat emitted by the hot roof. The installation of the Thermal Control Membrane will effectively negate this heat transfer and the German fan will remove the waste heat.

Infrared imaging showed areas where existing kneewall insulation is falling down due to improper installation procedures. All kneewalls to be put back to original configuration then wrapped with reinforced TCM and stapled into place therebye eliminating future heat loss and heat gain issues from this common problem.

Don Fisk Gandhi

Estimated time: 16 man hrs
Living Room:


Estimated time: 48 man hrs (extra time and preparation needed for the clay tile)
Master Bedroom:
Estimated time: 48 hrs
Tubular Skylights in kitchen:
Estimated time: 16 man hrs
Casita:
Estimated time: 40 man hrs
Load Controller:
Install Pensar System 1000 load controller to limit demand portion of APS bill
Estimated time: 10 man hrs
Total man hrs: 274
Price estimates:
Attic prep work: 32 man hrs billed at $30/hr: $960 (three workers)
Wrap all knee walls with reinforced TCM: $450
Wrap all ducting with TCM Duct Wrap (includes casita): $475
TCM (attic area sq foot estimate) 6400 sq feet (including the casita)
$1.40 x 6400 $8960
Fans: 16" fans ea: $520 installed x 2 $1040
Fan for casita: 14" German fan: $420
Roof vents in tile: $375 ea x 4 (2 for fans, 2 for air intake) $1500
Wall vents installed and sealed in a stucco wall: 6 x $120 ea: $720
Skylights: 2 - 13" units in kitchen in tile roof: $750 ea: $1500
TCM Tile Underlayment: Approx 850 sq feet @ $2.80/sq foot $2380
Cellulose insulation installed in main attics and casita: $800
Pensar Load controller installed and programmed: $3700 (parts and labor)
Duct replacement, repair and sealing: $425 (includes parts and labor)
Prices listed above are based on the total job being done aside from the load controller which can be subtracted from the total cost and can be installed anytime.
Installed cost part and labor: $22770
Staged Installation Revision:
Stage 1:
Attic prep work: 32 man hrs billed at $30/hr: $960 (three workers) including: re-installing insulation batts above ceiling and knee walls and wrapping skylight shafts with TCM.
Wrap all knee walls with reinforced TCM: $450
Duct replacement, repair and sealing(includes parts and labor): $425
Roof vents in tile: $375 ea x 4 (2 for fans, 2 for air intake & bedroom access) $1500
Blown cellulose in East and West bedrooms and fill voids in main home: $775
Install skylights: 2 - 13" units in kitchen in tile roof: $750 ea: $1500
Install 5200sq ft TCM over accessible attic areas in main home. $7280
Total for Stage 1: $12,890 less 10% $1,289 = $11,601
Second Stage:
TCM Tile Underlayment: Approx 850 sq feet @ $2.80/sq foot $2380
Fan for casita: 14" German fan & mounting box: $420
Two roof vents for casita in tile (one for fan, one for intake venting): $375
TCM installed in Casita (1200sq ft x $1.40): $1680
Repair duct leaks and replace broken duct in casita: $410
Total for Stage 2: $7025 less 10% $702 $6323
Dushyaht, below is a plan of procedure of how the job will progress:
Sign contract, pick up deposit for 1/2 down
Pre-work inspection
and taking measurements
Install openings in bedroom tile roof to access attic
area
Install venting system to bring fresh air into attic area to facilitate
work being done
Install tubular skylights
Repair existing problems with
insulation and ducting
Seal all ducting
Repair kitchen vent and add
support
Wrap ductwork with TCM Duct Wrap
Wrap knee walls with Reinforced
TCM
Install cellulose where indicated
Install TCM over attic all attic
areas
Dushyant, I expected the installed cost to be a bit lower than this but as I started calculating the time needed to work on this project it added up quickly. A 6,000 square foot home having TCM installed with a fan and duct wrapping and kneewalls typically runs $3.00/sq. foot. Your home however, has several items that add to the cost up front:
The good news is your home will be more comfortable, energy efficient, the kitchen will be lit up with pure spectrum light and the air inside will be cleaner since the ducting will be sealed. Your structural lumber is bleeding sap from the excessive heat build up so the venting will make your tile underlayment last longer and keep your wood deck from degrading from the heat which is important when supporting the weight of a tile roof.
When I first looked at the house I thought it would take a two man crew a week to finish but after going over all the items that have to be done with Julio, it's going to take three guys perhaps eight days or more to complete this project due to the current condition and the items I listed above. The load controller is a fairly good chunk of this job and can be removed from the total above however given your demand of 16.3 and having six a/c units to control, the savings on demand charges are going to be significant. Recall I told you while looking at your bill just the demand segment, which is ONE hours worth of power cost you close to $200. With the load controller and the TCM installed, you will be able to control you APS charges like a cruise control on a home. I recall a similar home which we made into a video which was left devasted by a remodeling contractor which is why we make a before and after video of it and placed it on YouTube. I plan on doing the same with your home should you d
Please let me know if you have any questions. My cell # is 602 980 4481
Brad Lindsay, Horizon Energy Systems
REVISED 1st stage of Energy Package Proposal:
Attic prep work: 32 man hrs billed at $30/hr: $960 (three workers)
Wrap all ducting with TCM Duct Wrap (main house only): $300
TCM (attic area sq foot estimate) 5000 sq feet (not the casita)
$1.40 x 5000 $7000
Fans: 16" fans ea: $520 installed x 2 $1040
2 vents in tile roof at $375: $1125
Skylights: 2 13" units in tile roof: $750 ea: $1500
Duct replacement, repair and sealing: $425 (includes parts and labor)
Cellulose insulation to fill in missing spaces: $800 (E. bedroom has nothing)
First stage installation of Energy Package total: $13,150
Dushyant,
Here is the revised proposal we discussed yesterday. Let me know what you think. As I mentioned, much of what needs to be done (and done carefully in cooler weather), is the tile removal and replacement.
Dushyant,
Here is the second revision you requested and thank you for making it easier on me. I spent more time on this and this better reflects the overall job.
To answer your question about installing the cellulose, yes, cellulose is dusty, however, only the return ducts can allow cellulose to enter the ducting since it's under a negative pressure and can draw dust laden air in. In the job description, the first thing to be addressed in the plan of procedure is sealing all the ducting which APS will pay you $250 for. This will negate any cellulose/dust issues. Furthermore, this scenario is especially a problem when the air handlers are located in the attic and sucking in dusty attic air through the panels, duct connections and plenum joints, like the casita is doing now. This is not the case in the main part of your home as all the air handlers are down below in the conditioned space. Long story short: Blowing in the cellulose is not going to creat a dust issue in your home. The only cellulose that will be blown in is over the East and West bedrooms and a few spots in the main house where insulation is missing.
Below is the modified 2nd revision:
The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009
On February 17, 2009, President Obama signed "The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009" that made some significant changes to the existing energy tax credits that apply to THermal Control Membrane® radiant barrier. The highlights are:
The tax credits that were previously effective for 2009, have been extended to 2010 as well.
The tax credit has been raised from 10% to 30%.
The maximum credit has been raised from $500 to $1500 for the two year period (2009-2010) for all improvements combined.
Radiant Barrier Tax Credit Summary:
For a radiant barrier product to qualify, its primary purpose must be to insulate.
Must be "placed in service" from January 1, 2009 through December 31, 2010
Installation costs are not included.
Must be for taxpayers principal residence
Improvements made in 2009 will be claimed on your 2009 taxes (filed by April 15, 2010) — use IRS Tax Form 5695 (2009 version) — it will be available late 2009 or early 2010
For tax purposes, save your receipt and the Manufacturer's Certification Statement.
Must be expected to last 5 years OR have a 2 year warranty. (TCM has a lifetime performance warranty.
$250 is available from APS after we perform a blower door test (typically a $450 cost, no charge to you), and seal the ductwork and send in the paperwork to APS.
As far as taking "10% off", I'll meet you 1/2 way at 5% with an agreement you are prepared to do the remainder of the project next Spring and an additional 3% if you pay with dead presidents. (Cash, no tax).
Looking forward to your consideration of the above information.
Brad 602 980 4481
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