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      Energy Reduction Proposal for the Fisk residence

Goals:  To reduce energy consumption, increase comfort and lower SRP bills
Plan of Procedure:

Existing 5 ton heat pump with elbow.  New unit to be installed where elbow is now.

Currently, the attic has no soffit venting.  Powered venting to be installed

The existing  gable  vents will be used as intake vents.   A 16" German made attic fan to be installed in the roof near the center of the home.  Addtional intake vents to be added lower in the gable for adequate evacuation of the hot attic air.

Attic is currently insulated to approximately R25 with Owens Corning blown fiberglass insulation.  Center of home is vaulted which increases heat gain through the ceiling via infrared heat emitted by the hot roof.  The installation of the Thermal Control Membrane will effectively negate this heat transfer and the German fan will remove the waste heat.

Infrared imaging showed areas where existing  kneewall insulation is falling down due to improper installation procedures.  All kneewalls to be put back to original configuration then wrapped with reinforced TCM and stapled into place therebye eliminating future heat loss and heat gain issues from this common problem.

 

Don Fisk Gandhi

6221 East Huntress Drive, Paradise Valley, AZ 85253
Email: dushyantgandhi@gmail.com
 
Goals:
Reduce heat gain into home to increase comfort and lower APS costs. 
 
Job Description (plan of procedure)
Main Attics:
 
 
Estimated time: 80 man hrs
 
East Bedroom:
Estimated time: 16 man hrs
 
West Bedroom:

Estimated time: 16 man hrs

Living Room:

Estimated time:  48 man hrs (extra time and preparation needed for the clay tile)

Master Bedroom:

Estimated time: 48 hrs

Tubular Skylights in kitchen:

Estimated time: 16 man hrs

Casita:

Estimated time: 40 man hrs

Load Controller: 

Install Pensar System 1000 load controller to limit demand portion of APS bill

Estimated time: 10 man hrs

Total man hrs: 274

Price estimates:

Attic prep work: 32 man hrs billed at $30/hr: $960 (three workers)

Wrap all knee walls with reinforced TCM: $450

Wrap all ducting with TCM Duct Wrap (includes casita): $475

TCM (attic area sq foot estimate) 6400 sq feet (including the casita)

$1.40 x 6400 $8960

Fans: 16" fans ea: $520 installed x 2 $1040

Fan for casita: 14" German fan: $420

Roof vents in tile: $375 ea x 4 (2 for fans, 2 for air intake) $1500

Wall vents installed and sealed in a stucco wall: 6 x $120 ea: $720

Skylights: 2 - 13" units in kitchen in tile roof: $750 ea: $1500

TCM Tile Underlayment: Approx 850 sq feet @ $2.80/sq foot $2380

Cellulose insulation installed in main attics and casita: $800

Pensar Load controller installed and programmed: $3700 (parts and labor)

Duct replacement, repair and sealing: $425 (includes parts and labor)

Prices listed above are based on the total job being done aside from the load controller which can be subtracted from the total cost and can be installed anytime.

Installed cost part and labor: $22770

Staged Installation Revision:

Stage 1:

Second Stage:

Dushyaht, below is a plan of procedure of how the job will progress:

Sign contract, pick up deposit for 1/2 down
Pre-work inspection and taking measurements
Install openings in bedroom tile roof to access attic area
Install venting system to bring fresh air into attic area to facilitate work being done
Install tubular skylights
Repair existing problems with insulation and ducting
Seal all ducting
Repair kitchen vent and add support
Wrap ductwork with TCM Duct Wrap
Wrap knee walls with Reinforced TCM
Install cellulose where indicated
Install TCM over attic all attic areas

Dushyant, I expected the installed cost to be a bit lower than this but as I started calculating the time needed to work on this project it added up quickly.  A 6,000 square foot home having TCM installed with a fan and duct wrapping and kneewalls typically runs $3.00/sq. foot.  Your home however, has several items that add to the cost up front:

The good news is your home will be more comfortable, energy efficient, the kitchen will be lit up with pure spectrum light and the air inside will be cleaner since the ducting will be sealed.  Your structural lumber is bleeding sap from the excessive heat build up so the venting will make your tile underlayment last longer and keep your wood deck from degrading from the heat which is important when supporting the weight of a tile roof. 

When I first looked at the house I thought it would take a two man crew a week to finish but after going over all the items that have to be done with Julio, it's going to take three guys perhaps eight days or more to complete this project due to the current condition and the items I listed above.  The load controller is a fairly good chunk of this job and can be removed from the total above however given your demand of 16.3 and having six a/c units to control, the savings on demand charges are going to be significant.  Recall I told you while looking at your bill just the demand segment, which is ONE hours worth of power cost you close to $200.  With the load controller and the TCM installed, you will be able to control you APS charges like a cruise control on a home.  I recall a similar home which we made into a video which was left devasted by a remodeling contractor which is why we make a before and after video of it and placed it on YouTube.  I plan on doing the same with your home should you d 

Please let me know if you have any questions.  My cell # is 602 980 4481

Brad Lindsay, Horizon Energy Systems

 

REVISED 1st stage of Energy Package Proposal:

Attic prep work: 32 man hrs billed at $30/hr: $960 (three workers)

Wrap all ducting with TCM Duct Wrap (main house only): $300

TCM (attic area sq foot estimate) 5000 sq feet (not the casita)
$1.40 x 5000 $7000

Fans: 16" fans ea: $520 installed x 2 $1040

2 vents in tile roof at $375: $1125

Skylights: 2 13" units in tile roof: $750 ea: $1500

Duct replacement, repair and sealing: $425 (includes parts and labor)

Cellulose insulation to fill in missing spaces: $800 (E. bedroom has nothing)

First stage installation of Energy Package total:  $13,150

Dushyant,

Here is the revised proposal we discussed yesterday.  Let me know what you think.  As I mentioned, much of what needs to be done (and done carefully in cooler weather), is the tile removal and replacement. 

 

Dushyant,

Here is the second revision you requested and thank you for making it easier on me.  I spent more time on this and this better reflects the overall job. 

To answer your question about installing the cellulose, yes, cellulose is dusty, however, only the return ducts can allow cellulose to enter the ducting since it's under a negative pressure and can draw dust laden air in.  In the job description, the first thing to be addressed in the plan of procedure is sealing all the ducting which APS will pay you $250 for.  This will negate any cellulose/dust issues.  Furthermore, this scenario is especially a problem when the air handlers are located in the attic and sucking in dusty attic air through the panels, duct connections and plenum joints, like the casita is doing now.  This is not the case in the main part of your home as all the air handlers are down below in the conditioned space. Long story short:  Blowing in the cellulose is not going to creat a dust issue in your home.  The only cellulose that will be blown in is over the East and West bedrooms and a few spots in the main house where insulation is missing.

Below is the modified 2nd revision:

 

2nd revision of 1st stage of Energy Package Proposal:
Replace missing insulation in all knee walls & wrap with reinforced TCM:  $450.
Wall vents installed and sealed in stucco wall: 6x$120 = $720
Attic prep work: 32 man hrs billed at $30/hr: $960 (three workers)
Wrap all ducting with TCM Duct Wrap (main house only): $300 (supposed to be $300/unit)
TCM (attic area sq foot estimate) 5000 sq feet (not the casita)
$1.40 x 5000 $7000
Fans: 16" fans ea: $520 installed x 2 $1040
4 vents total actually in tile roof at $375: $1500 (as follows:)
Skylights: 2 13" units in tile roof: $750 ea: $1500
Duct replacement, repair and sealing: $425 (includes parts and labor)
Cellulose insulation to fill in missing spaces: $800 (E. bedroom has nothing)
Dushyant, For the most part, the $800 is for the main house.  The casita requires
very little (one bag, if that) of cellulose for fill near the attic opening.  Deduct
$25 for that. Not sure if the West bedroom has any insulation either as we
won't be able to determine that until the roof is opened up. If so, I won't
charge you for adding it, only the TCM.  Most of the cellulose charges are for
labor, not material, it's actually pretty inexpensive.  The installation and clean up
take a lot of time to be done correctly.
All of the above will take approximately two weeks to complete.
 
First stage installation of Energy Package total:  $14,696
 
Federal Energy Incentives: 
 
Providing Consumers Tax Credits in 2009-2010 for Radiant Barrier Purchased and Installed in 2009-2010

The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009

On February 17, 2009, President Obama signed "The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009" that made some significant changes to the existing energy tax credits that apply to THermal Control Membrane® radiant barrier.  The highlights are:

  • The tax credits that were previously effective for 2009, have been extended to 2010 as well.

  • The tax credit has been raised from 10% to 30%.

  • The maximum credit has been raised from $500 to $1500 for the two year period (2009-2010) for all improvements combined.

Radiant Barrier Tax Credit Summary:

  • For a radiant barrier product to qualify, its primary purpose must be to insulate.

  • Must be "placed in service" from January 1, 2009 through December 31, 2010

  • Installation costs are not included.

  • Must be for taxpayers principal residence

  • Improvements made in 2009 will be claimed on your 2009 taxes (filed by April 15, 2010) — use IRS Tax Form 5695 (2009 version) — it will be available late 2009 or early 2010

  • For tax purposes, save your receipt and the Manufacturer's Certification Statement.

  • Must be expected to last 5 years OR have a 2 year warranty.  (TCM has a lifetime performance warranty.

 

$250 is available from APS after we perform a blower door test (typically a $450 cost, no charge to  you), and seal the ductwork and send in the paperwork to APS.

As far as taking "10% off", I'll meet you 1/2 way at 5% with an agreement you are prepared to do the remainder of the project next Spring and an additional 3% if you pay with dead presidents.  (Cash, no tax).

Looking forward to your consideration of the above information.

Brad 602 980 4481

 

             

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